| Dan Savage: | I know that people will think I'm [transphobic/biphobic/acephobic/ableist/sexist/racist] for saying this, but [insert extremely offensive comment here]. |
| The Internet: | Why the fuck would you say something like that if you knew it was going to offend someone? |
| Dan Savage: | [Insert suitable apology/rant here] |
| Me: | Go fuck yourself. |
won’t you celebrate with me
what i have shaped into
a kind of life? i had no model.
born in babylon
both nonwhite and woman
what did i see to be except myself?
i made it up
here on this bridge between
starshine and clay,
my one hand holding tight
my other hand; come celebrate
with me that everyday
something has tried to kill me
and has failed.
"Like, I’m not too familiar with the character but yes Young Justice writers, he’s Hispanic. We know. You could have just had him, oh I don’t know, say a few phrases in Spanish from time to time instead of throwing a few “ese’s” in there and calling it a night.
On top of that he’s from El Paso, Texas — I live in Texas and my family used to live in Brownsville which is right on the border between the United States and Mexico and I have not heard or known a single Hispanic person say “ese” my entire life while I was there. What the actual fuck??!!
Any fellow Hispanic comic book lovers out there who are as pissed off about this as I am? I would love to hear your thoughts about it!
I really hate Tumblr feminism. I really do. All I’ve learned so far is that I’m a horrible person for being white and all white men are potential rapists and I’m supposed to sit and listen to Bratmobile and take instagram pictures of my unshaved armpits.
Okay well because you made the effort to write a decent response I feel like I should definitely elaborate more as this is definitely not my perception of all feminists.
For my thesis, I wrote about “Gender In Cinema” which meant I had to thoroughly research feminist film theory which I did and to be honest as much as I agreed with a lot of the points, I can to the conclusion that it was somewhat idealistic and that cinema is something which has become more a commodity and market than an art form so it basically gives the people what they want to see.
Both men and women buy into Scarlett Johansson’s catsuit, if you know what I mean. That was one example of my conclusion of that. Maybe it’s not the indoctrination of patriarchy, maybe women admire her beauty and want to be like her. It’s been like that since the dawn of cinema, just like men want to be the epitome of masculinity like Humphrey Bogart. It’s primal for me rather than “indocrination” and that’s my argument.
As far as “shaming” goes, I think it’s awesome when a girl wants to grow it all out because she feels more comfortable that way. I don’t care what other women do and in fact I think women should embrace the fact that body hair can be seen as a sort of badge of maturity and womanhood, for example porn stars have started to embrace this for example Sasha Grey is not always “bald” and old pictures of Bettie Page where her body hair is perceived as erotic and womanly rather than “untidy” or lazy. If you think what I said was “shaming” think of it another way, maybe if I see a girl going out of her way to show everyone how “non-comformist” she is with her body hair, I feel like I’m being lectured because I choose to shave and I’m “adhering to the standards of beauty solidified by patriarchy”.
I mean, maybe it just feels better to me and I feel like it’s hygienic. In a way, going out of your way to show off something like makes me feel like I’m a “victim” of “patriarchy” and in a sense being shamed myself. Mine is a choice, just like hers and it’s not “men” or Vogue magazine that makes me do it.
As far as whiteness goes, I am a Northern European Irish girl. My parents came from working class backgrounds and worked very hard all their lives to eventually provide me with clothes on my back, food in my mouth and a roof over my head, along with an education they could never have. From what I have learned by parents/grandparents lives were anything but “privileged”.
The privilege is only in the colour of their skin (guilty of being white) which is something no one should have guilt about and I completely also acknowledge that racism still exists but I cannot accept that through my existence as a white Irish person my existence stands for racism and “Imperialism”.
If you look at the history of my people, this is certainly not the case and I am excluding Irish-Americans from this. I have no guilt for being “privileged” since my ancestors didn’t have it and I am can appreciate I am lucky to have it since they didn’t. I can’t fight for the world and I feel like trying to put yourself up there as the “good whitey” is patronising and insincere since I know nothing about living in a third world country and it’s why the Kony 2012 bullshit was extremely offensive to me. One example. It comes across as self gratifying.
As far as trauma goes and “triggering”, I understand that Post-Traumatic Stress is an awful thing for anyone to experience and completely exists and I am not unsympathetic to anyone who suffers from it. For me personally, I have experienced trauma, I have experienced depression and anxiety but I feel like I can’t shut myself away from bad things I see even if they remind me of my past. I am lucky enough never to have experienced a family member to be murdered in from of me, which has happened during atrocities all across history, The Holocaust, The Rwandan Genocide. To me, these are things I feel I am lucky in my situation/country/generation never to have experienced so instead of dwelling on my own problems and treating them as best I can, I try and learn as much as I can about devastating trauma that generations will never get over and try and pluck up as much courage to live as I can. The world is an uncaring, cruel, unjust place and I try my best to be as understanding, tolerant and listen more than I talk as much as possible. That’s where I stand. Feminism can’t save the world. All movements/religions/philosophies are flawed. I just want to be a good person because I am only one of billions. Human beings are tiny and weak and we’re fundamentally similar and that’s what I believe.
That’s where I stand at the moment. I believe in always learning and never falling into one slot and become indeed “indoctrinated” and closed minded.
I sort of feel like your mind is made up and there’s really nothing I can say to change it, since I explained my perspective already and we’ve met no middle ground. I’ll leave this here so that other folks can read your response, so you can be heard on the issue, and so other can take up the argument if they see fit. As I said, I’ve stated my position, and it’s clear you’ve come to conclusions that aren’t going to be moved by my words.
I’m just going to leave this image (this highly circulated image by the way) here because it pretty much sums up everything I would have said anyway about the initial comment about tumblr feminism:

I have no idea what part of tumblr you stumbled upon, because I sincerely feel like if not for tumblr I wouldn’t feel so strongly for feminist issues at all. In fact, I believe that the wonderful feminists I have followed/stumbled upon on this site have made me a better feminist, because I have been subjected to a variety of different people’s opinions and stories.
Because when you’re talking about the concept of racism and various other forms of oppression there’s literally no way that someone is going to come out of the conversation unhurt. Prejudice is messy, and hateful, and seemingly infinite, and it’s completely natural for people to get defensive about it when they feel personally attacked — because when is it not personal? All you can pretty much do is sit back and listen and try to learn from those who suffer from it so that you can try to understand where they’re coming from.
And only then can you actually get up and do something about it.
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I think it’s sad that this is the first time that I’ve seen both a dark-skinned vampire and a light-skinned werewolf in a popular media franchise. Like seriously, if Monster High of all series could do it, why can’t other series like Twilight and True Blood do it? It is NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE. I don’t understand.
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won’t you celebrate with me
what i have shaped into
a kind of life? i had no model.
born in babylon
both nonwhite and woman
what did i see to be except myself?
i made it up
here on this bridge between
starshine and clay,
my one hand holding tight
my other hand; come celebrate
with me that everyday
something has tried to kill me
and has failed.
"
You have no idea how much I love this picture.
I can’t believe I just discovered the webseries The Misadventures of Awkward Black Girl & Friends because I swear to god I relate to so many things in this series it is scary uncanny.
Did anyone else find Grouplove’s song Colours super offensive? I understand that they were trying to sound supportive, but they ended up just sounding dismissive and patronizing on one hand (it’s the colours you have/no need to be sad/it really ain’t that bad) and suspiciously like white-privilege!splaining on the other (so when you see me flying by the planet’s moon/you don’t need to explain if everything’s changed/just know i’m just like you). Not to mention that they culturally appropriate the fuck out of the music video. I’m pretty sure you can symbolize how you and your white hipster friends are “othered” in society (HA) in other, less offensive/extremely racist ways Grouplove. The irony that your name is “Grouplove” is not lost on me. Oh yeah, and fuck you.
- Any standard that is unrealistic and homogenous is inherently damaging by creating inhuman expectations.
- This is especially true when Asian American socio-economic status, although higher on average than other non-white groups, can actually vary hugely between…
The strongest argument that can be made as to why all radical activists should study the life and works of Lucy Parsons is that the FBI wants you to know nothing about her.
Lucy Parsons died in 1942, at the age of 89, in a house-fire in Chicago — the city in which she lived most of her life. The ashes had hardly cooled before the Chicago police raided the remains of her home, confiscated all 3,000 volumes of literature and writings on “sex, socialism, and anarchy,” which constituted her personal library, and turned it over to the FBI. Tragically, and despite her comrades’ repeated inquiries, this treasure trove of revolutionary material was never again to see the light of day.
Indeed, the Chicago police had ample reason to want to bury Parsons’ legacy as quickly as possible. In their own words, she was “more dangerous than a thousand rioters.” For virtually the entirety of the last 40 years of her life, the Chicago police tried to bar her from making any public speeches, and routinely arrested her for the ‘crime’ of handing out revolutionary pamphlets on the street. Famed labor historian Studs Terkel even noted how rare of a privilege it was to hear Parsons address a large audience in her later years, owing to the constant police harassment.
Overlooked by History
Partially because so much of her own writings were ‘disappeared’ by the government, and partially because she was a revolutionary woman of color speaking out against the injustices of a capitalist society run by white men, Lucy Parsons is one of the least known of the major figures in the history of revolutionary socialism in the U.S. Much like her long-time comrades and friends, Eugene Debs, William “Big Bill” Haywood, and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, Lucy Parsons made a tremendous contribution to the birth of America’s turn-of-the-century, revolutionary working-class movement; a movement which continues to this day to shape the character of class struggle and revolutionary politics in this country.
Historian Robin Kelley argues that Lucy Parsons was not only “the most prominent black woman radical of the late nineteenth century,” but was also “one of the brightest lights in the history of revolutionary socialism.” Historian John McClendon writes that she is notable for being the “first black activist to associate with the revolutionary left in America.”
More often than not, however, if Lucy Parsons is mentioned as an historical figure, she is noted merely as the “wife of Albert Parsons,” a man who had gained international notoriety after he was executed in 1887 by the state of Illinois for his revolutionary activities.
Unfortunately, this slight extends beyond solely ‘mainstream’ historians, including supposedly left-wing intellectuals as well. For instance, in the 1960s, the feminist editors of Radcliffe College’s three-volume work, Notable American Women, decided to leave Parsons out of their study on the grounds that she was “largely propelled by her husband’s fate” and was a “pathetic figure, living in the past and crying injustice” after her husband’s execution.
Even contemporaries of Lucy Parsons, such as the popular anarchist-feminist Emma Goldman (with whom Lucy Parsons became a life-long political opponent), accused Parsons of being an otherwise unimportant opportunist who simply rode upon the cape of her husband’s martyrdom, describing her as nothing more than one of those wives of “anarchists who marry women who are millions of miles removed from their ideas.”
None of this, however, is to diminish the historical importance of Albert Parsons and the events leading up to his execution; and while it is true that Lucy Parsons spent much of her life addressing the crime that was her husband’s murder at the hands of the capitalist state, nonetheless, her political activity and impact on history extend far beyond the scope of that single tragedy. In fact, the work that she lent her energies to in the years following Albert’s execution are of equal (if not greater) importance than anything he had been able to add to the fight for workers’ emancipation in the course of a life that was sadly cut short.
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Uh. No. Discrimination is being discriminant about these things. If anything, the months themselves are discriminatory.
Women’s history month celebrates women’s history at the exclusion of men.
Black history month celebrates black history at the exclusion of all who aren’t.
dis·crim·i·na·tion [dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]
1. an act or instance of discriminating.
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.
4. Archaic . something that serves to differentiate.
and…
dis·crim·i·nate [v. dih-skrim-uh-neyt; adj. dih-skrim-uh-nit] verb, -nat·ed, -nat·ing
verb (used without object)
1.to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.
verb (used with object)
3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.
4. to note or distinguish as different: He can discriminate minute variations in tone.
… both illustrate this.
So, no. These months don’t actually help anything. They only serve to further the separation that breeds discrimination.
But, hey. Probably just white, male, ‘splanation. Prove me wrong.
Regards,
IIF
So, women and people of color aren’t allowed to celebrate their achievements without the inclusion of the very people who are marginalizing them? Because, you know, White Male History is celebrated every single fucking day. I think women and people of color deserve more than just one lousy month, don’t you?
As a woman who’s aspiring to be a Mathematician, I’m really fucking offended by Women’s History Month. I’m not a victim- and I celebrate can and do celebrate my achievements without the assistance of some special snowflake holiday where men have to step aside and let me bask in some weridass “glory”. I actually feel a little bad for people who feel like they NEED a women’s/race based history month. Celebrate it your fucking self. You don’t need an audience to be awesome.
In fact, I have more to say, so I’m going to edit this.
Women’s History Month, feminists, is really counter productive to your cause anyway. You want a month where men have to stand back and give you justification and reason? You want men to be the ones to tell you how much you’re worth? You want men to have to validate your achievemnts? Is that really beneficial to getting equality? How is that equal? How is that “bringing down the patriarachy”? You are enabling their “control” over you, that you claim they have. How does that even make sense?
The point that this statement is trying to make is that, in essence, this is what is happening — white men who have power are trying to make a cop out and make it seem that they actually care about marginalized Americans by setting aside their prejudices for one month, and then going back to ignoring them the rest of the year. What I am trying to say is that you can and should be able to not only celebrate your achievements as a woman, but have them recognized by people in power (aka white middle class men) as well every single day, and not just for a stupid month. Everyday should be cause to celebrate Woman’s and POC’s History.
Uh. No. Discrimination is being discriminant about these things. If anything, the months themselves are discriminatory.
Women’s history month celebrates women’s history at the exclusion of men.
Black history month celebrates black history at the exclusion of all who aren’t.
dis·crim·i·na·tion [dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]
1. an act or instance of discriminating.
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.
4. Archaic . something that serves to differentiate.
and…
dis·crim·i·nate [v. dih-skrim-uh-neyt; adj. dih-skrim-uh-nit] verb, -nat·ed, -nat·ing
verb (used without object)
1.to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.
verb (used with object)
3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.
4. to note or distinguish as different: He can discriminate minute variations in tone.
… both illustrate this.
So, no. These months don’t actually help anything. They only serve to further the separation that breeds discrimination.
But, hey. Probably just white, male, ‘splanation. Prove me wrong.
Regards,
IIF
So, women and people of color aren’t allowed to celebrate their achievements without the inclusion of the very people who are marginalizing them? Because, you know, White Male History is celebrated every single fucking day. I think women and people of color deserve more than just one lousy month, don’t you?
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